Carvin V3 Midi Setup For Pc
Using M13's MIDI interface to control amp switching?by on 2009-07-16 05:I am looking at purchasing either an M13 or the POD X3 Live. Not being a MIDI geek, I am wondering if the MIDI capabilities of either Line 6 unit I mentioned can be used to control amp switching functions (switching channels on the amp, engaging.disengaging effects loops, boost, etc.). I have a Carvin V3 head, which is MIDI switchable. What I am looking to do, for example, is be able to configure presets or scenes that include all the given effects (Line 6) and amp (Carivin V3) configurations I want, and by pushing one button, being able to switch presets or scenes and amp channels via MIDI.Is this possible, or would I need to purchase a separate MIDI controller to do this?Thanks, and a quick response would be greatly appreciated since I need to make this purchase very soon!Joel HoneaArlington, TX. Re: Using M13's MIDI interface to control amp switching?by on 2009-07-16 14:Thanks Perry. You and I spoke on the phone today, which was very helpful.
I have looked at both the Voodoo Lab Ground Control ($399) and the Behringer MIDI controller ($149) since we talked. The Ground Control is definitely cooler, more versatile, and has a smaller stage footprint, but is pricier.
The Behringer, by what I can tell, should do the trick. The V3's switching functions are all either MIDI or analog/relay, and the Behringer has both (two 1/4' jacks for relay switching, if that's the way I want it). I just have to decide now if I want to spend the extra $250 for the Ground Control.
The M13 and the Ground Control actually appear to be similar in size, which would allow me to either put them side-by-side at my feet, or just keep the Ground Control at my feet and have the M13 back at my rig in a rack drawer or something.Ain't gear shopping fun??? I could do it all day long!Joel. Re: Using M13's MIDI interface to control amp switching?by on 2009-07-22 04:I believe if your amp has midi learn capability or you can select which midi program change selects which channel on your amp the M13 will work now to select a channel when you select a scene. In other works assign clean channel to Program Change #0 and when you select Scene 1C on the M13 it will select this channel, assign your 1st gain channel to Program Change #1 and when you select Scene 1B on the M13 it will recall this channel. It worked with my H&K Triamp MKII.
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This was just not enough capability for me. Another thing to watch out for when hooking up things is the M13 only had a Midi Out not a Midi Thru so it will only send midi info on whatever Midi channel you have selected on the M13.
Hope this helps in some sort of way. Re: Using M13's MIDI interface to control amp switching?by on 2009-08-04 07:I don't understand why this WOULDN'T work.
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What you would theoretically need to do is.the V3 stores all of it's 'settings' for the FX loops, boost, and channel switches in it's own midi patches 1 - 99.if the M13 sends a patch change when switching scenes.which i think it does. i have no clue why you couldn't also change the patch on the V3. There is no way to control FX loops on/off or the boost through midi on the v3, but if you were okay with just having switchable 'presets', you still might be in luck. I need to find a M13 to test this on. Anyone else tried?
I can help people with how the M13 and V3 SHOULD be able to interact if anyone has this combo and wants to try. Re: Using M13's MIDI interface to control amp switching?by on 2009-08-04 09:Hi,I have to agree with sdconvoy on this. From what I have tested with the M13, and the nfo provided in the V3 manual, I believe that you can get it to do what you want with the V3.Here's what it WONT do:Assigning a particular footswitch or footswitches on the M13 to change amp channel, loop, or boost on the V3. There are ways to get it to do that, but it's not worth the trouble of the getting the extra gear to do it, programming that gear, and implementing it into your setup. The Ground Control will do this, and change scenes on the M13 I'm sure.Here's what it WILL do:The M13 DOES send out a program change when you switch a scene in latch or momentary mode. Scene 1 = program change 0.
Scene 2, = program change 1, etc. See below:Basically, the Val column is the Program Change number sent when you select the Scene in the info column. You should be able the go into the program mode on the V3, do the appropriate steps, and then change the scene on the M13 where the manual says '3.) From your MIDI controller, select (send) the MIDI patch number you wish to save' Just make sure that the M13 and the V3 are setup on the same MIDI channel. The M13 will do all 16 channels, but it looks like the V3 will do channels 1-3.The only problem that I see would be that you couldn't use scene 1 on the M13 since it sends 0, and the V3 programs start at 1.I'm not trying to argue who's right or wrong on this, and if you are happy with the Ground Control, and it works the way YOU want it to, more power to you. But I think if you experimented with this, and it actually works for you, you could save some money for more gear:-)In any case, good luck with your setup.Eric. Re: Using M13's MIDI interface to control amp switching?by on 2009-08-05 11:I have the exact described setup: i.e.
A Carvin V3 with a M13 for effects.The M13 in scene mode is used to switch the channels /loops /boost. The V3 only accepts program change MIDI messages and that's exactly what the M13 gives out (just program changes.)It works without any problems, just make sure to program the V3 as mentioned in the V3 manual: set everything (loop / boost) up the way you want it for a scene.Go into 'V3 program mode' on the amp and step on the scene you want to store it under.
Re: Using M13's MIDI interface to control amp switching?by on 2009-08-06 01:'You are saying that If I change scenes, it should also switch my amp channels, boost function and so on. Assuming that I have the V-3 set up right.' But it will only work if you are changing scenes?' The V3 only responds to PC's, and the M13 sends PC's only when changing scene's. Gateway e 2300 video driver license. MIDI section:'I guess it is easier to use my footswitch than it would be to change scenes.' Well, if you use the M13 in 'latch scene mode' (like I do during gig's) you'll have 12 different presets, that's enough for me.
Re: Using M13's MIDI interface to control amp switching?by on 2009-08-06 14:'do you use the 4 cable method with the M13?' I use a multi cable (4 pairs) wich has the send, return, out and midi on it.' How does the V3 play with the M13?' I don't use that many effects on my rhythm settings, just some reverb and compression. There is no noticable unwanted colouring or loss in dynamics. But on the other hand I play in a rockband and with a drummer, singer, bassplayer and an other guitar player. Who will notice?
When playing live I have the cabinet miked and have the sound coming back from the PA guy's through the floormonitors. So 'sound' is much more a matter of quality microphones, monitors etc.'
Do you use any of the od / boost models on the m13 in front?' Yes, mostly some compressor and on the clean channel I use a preset with a screamer.
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Re: Using M13's MIDI interface to control amp switching?by on 2009-08-07 02:Thank you very much, I will give it a shot. I didn't understand what you meant by Latch mode, so when I got off work yesterday morning I messed with the M-13 for a while, and figured it out, Actually even if I can't use it to change channels on the V-3 I will probably run it in latch mode anyway. I didn't realize that you could set it up to have basically 'patches'. I've always used it just like a pedal board, and I've done some fancy footwork onstage that wouldn't have been at all necessary had I known about the Latch mode.Again thanks for helping me to understand a little bit about MIDI, and for showing me something that makes the M-13 even better than I thought it was.
Re: Using M13's MIDI interface to control amp switching?by on 2009-08-07 08:You only have to use one MIDI cable: from the M13's MIDI out (M13 will SEND program changes) to the V3's MIDI in (V3 will RECIEVE the PC and will use it to do whatever you have programmed on the V3 when it recieves this PC.)Frank, can you outline the steps you took? I tried some things last night, and couldn't get the V3 to switch when I changed scenes.First, how do you set the MIDI channel that the M13 sends on?Here's what I did:- Created a scene on the M13 and saved it.- Went back into Scene Edit mode, then attempted to set up the MIDI stuff for amp channel 2 on the V3.- While the loop 1 light was blinking on the V3, I held down the C2 scene to copy (or save) it.- Nothing happened on the V3.My guess is that I don't have the M13 set to send PC on the same channel that the V3 is set to receive PC on???
Re: Using M13's MIDI interface to control amp switching?by on 2009-08-07 10:'Frank, can you outline the steps you took? I tried some things last night, and couldn't get the V3 to switch when I changed scenes'First, how do you set the MIDI channel that the M13 sends on?' Hold down the 'looper control' button to enter setup mode: In FX4 LCD it has an entry 'ch 1' or 'ch 2'. Etc This is the MIDI channel it works on. If you only have MIDI connected between the M13 and the V3 (like I do) turn the dial 'till it reads 'omni' (it sends on all 16 channels). This way you don't have to worry about the MIDI channel on the V3:-)'Here's what I did:- Created a scene on the M13 and saved it.ok- Went back into Scene Edit mode, then attempted to set up the MIDI stuff for amp channel 2 on the V3.wrong - you're done with setting up the M13Make sure you have the M13 in 'latch scene mode' (setup mode - FX3 LCD - knob 4 selects 'momen scene' or 'latch scene')Example: you want to associate scene 1A with the clean channel1. Select a scene DIFFERENT than the one you want to use (you'll need to do this for the correct PC to send)2.
Set up the channels and/or loops and/or boost you want (V3 users manual) for example channel 33. Go into V3 program mode, in our example hold down the CH3 switch on the amp and press the CH1&2 simultaniously once. If all goes well LOOP 1 LED on the V3 will start to blink.4. Now press the scene (example '1A') you want to associate the set up (amp)channel with. The LED wil stop blinking and the V3 'memorizes' the channel settings for the M13 scene.5. Test it by selecting an other scene and an other channel: if all went well you should get CH3 on the V3 by pressing scene 1A.There's some (basic) info (w/ video) on setting up the M13 on. Re: Using M13's MIDI interface to control amp switching?by on 2009-08-07 17:Worked like a charm, Frank!
Of course it helps if the MIDI cable is connected properly. I hadn't yet moved the M13's MIDI cable to the MIDI Out when I unplugged the Ground Control. So you, my friend, have done two things with your help here:1) You've made Line 6 aware of a feature that they, apparently, were not aware of, and2) I get to return my $399 Ground Control and get some other stuff I need!Everybody wins here! Thanks a million.JoelP.S. The amp switching still works when you have the M13 in 'Momentary Scene' mode (as well as 'Latch' mode, but it means hitting two buttons (the Scenes button and then the button of the Scene you wish to select) instead of one.
Sometimes that can be a pain in a live performance, but in Momentary Scene mode you have the advantage of being able to switch individual effects on and off. Re: Using M13's MIDI interface to control amp switching?by on 2009-08-08 14:'Everybody wins here! Thanks a million.' My pleasure!' - The amp switching still works when you have the M13 in 'Momentary Scene' mode (as well as 'Latch' mode, but it means hitting two buttons (the Scenes button and then the button of the Scene you wish to select) instead of one. Sometimes that can be a pain in a live performance, but in Momentary Scene mode you have the advantage of being able to switch individual effects on and off'You're right, I use it the other way around, when I want to change something in a scene, I just hit the Scenes button and get into the board layout, make the changes and get out.
I do this mostly just before starting a new song, if it needs a phaser as modulation instead of chorus.But hey, that's the way I use it. Re: Using M13's MIDI interface to control amp switching?by on 2009-09-22 04:'Well, if you use the M13 in 'latch scene mode' (like I do during gig's) you'll have 12 different presets, that's enough for me.' Whichisby on 2009-09-22 15:Thanks for the welcome.I understand what you're saying, mostly and I checked and yes according to the manual the H&K takes MIDI Program Change messages, which is excellent.What I don't understand is how you can set your scens up to turn select effects on once you've changed scenes. Is it as easy as leaving the effects that you want on, as you save/change the scene?In all, this product looks more appealing every day with its 'hidden' 'pro' features. Very cool!Thanks again.And I'm definitely making my own midi/audio cable! Great idea and much tidier than having half a dozen cables on the floor.
I don't suppose 5 Core cable exists; just in case I want to run the amp's footswitch too, does it!? Re: whichisby on 2009-09-25 03:NetStar wrote:Is it as easy as leaving the effects that you want on, as you save/change the scene?Yes, it's that easy.NetStar wrote:And I'm definitely making my own midi/audio cable! Great idea and much tidier than having half a dozen cables on the floor. I don't suppose 5 Core cable exists; just in case I want to run the amp's footswitch too, does it!?I dont know if 5 core cable exists but I know there's 8 pair core. So you can us this. It's not that much thicker and you have enough 'spare's'.
Re: Using M13's MIDI interface to control amp switching?by on 2012-07-10 07:Thanks, Thats what I susppected.amp gizmo is too expensive for just amp switching feature, what about a moen?This can switch amps, but how can this interact with the M13?The M13 need to be inside one of moen loops or out?Will this work? I see it has no midi out.looks like the amp switching is via regular 1/4 cable though.The information above may not be current, and you should direct questions to the current or review the. PRIVACY STATEMENTYour privacy is important to Yamaha Guitar Group, Inc. And its family of brands, which includes Yamaha, Line 6, and Ampeg (“YGG”). We developed this Privacy Policy so you know how we collect, use, share and store your personal information.This Privacy Policy applies to all YGG-branded, owned, and operated websites, applications (“apps”) and products on which this Privacy Policy is shown. If a YGG website, app or product links to a different privacy policy, then that privacy policy will apply to your use of that site, app or product.Ways YGG Collects and Uses Personal Information'Personal Information' is information that, either alone or in combination with other information collected, identifies an individual.
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